cruiser wrote:

cougarfurr wrote:

This is bad bad bad. Kessman was such a great story. Committed to BYU so far in advance...seemed to be fully invested. This is not good if it is all true. All I can say, is that there better be a legit reason for these suspended players.

A couple of things. First, you say there better be a "legit reason" for the suspensions. I can assure you there is. In fact, I'm a little surprised they were only suspended from practice and not from the team, at least for a while. They signed an honor code, and they were caught breaking it. Second, you say that Kessman was such a great story. Unfortunately, that story was not translating into success on the field. It wouldn't surprise me if he did transfer from school this year, because, as totally invested as he seemed when he committed, he has been struggling at least that much on the team. I could say more, but I'll simply leave it at this: Coach Mendenhall has been patient and understanding in this and other, related affairs. There is no reason to question his judgment.

Come on you have to give more info than this. You dangle the twinkie in front of my fat arse but you won't give me any. Thats not fair.

I mentioned that when I made this post, it was done with a very specific football intent.
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Some violations were more serious than others. There is much more to this story, but I think the best thing for us to do is let them unfold.

In the meantime, Kessman had issues. If they are resolved by a transfer, then both sides will be better off.

cruiser wrote:

I'm a little surprised they were only suspended from practice and not from the team, at least for a while.

Let me also say, I think to the public these suspensions will be viewed as heavy-handed. They aren't. It's extremely disappointing, but ALL knew the honor code, and all broke it, some MUCH worse than others.

I do not want to bash on Kessman, but since he has been in Provo he has done some things that made it apparent that playing football was all about him and had very little to do with the team. Exhibit A is his reaction when he found himself redshirting. While he is talented I would take any of the guys that are starting on our team as receivers over him and a year of learning and developement would have done him good. Now, instead of living up to his commitments he wants to transfer. The worse part about this is that he is being supported in this by someone who should be a bit more adult and mature in his decission making.

Khinkaid wrote:

I do not want to bash on Kessman, but since he has been in Provo he has done some things that made it apparent that playing football was all about him and had very little to do with the team. Exhibit A is his reaction when he found himself redshirting. While he is talented I would take any of the guys that are starting on our team as receivers over him and a year of learning and developement would have done him good. Now, instead of living up to his commitments he wants to transfer. The worse part about this is that he is being supported in this by someone who should be a bit more adult and mature in his decission making.

Who would that supportive adult be? His Dad? An anonymous internet poster? Bronco? Alan Colmes? (sorry had to throw a bleeding heart in there) His Bishop? An older teammate? Ben Olsen? Perhaps you have more knowledge regarding to whom this youngman turns for counsel if he does so at all.

Don't assume that staying at BYU is the best choice. That is not necessarily the case for every player for any number of reasons - inability to abide by the Honor Code, better playing opportunity elsewhere, "team chemistry", attitude, financial reasons, or other personal reasons.

Looking back at my first year at BYU (Deseret Towers - V Hall), probably at least half of the guys on my floor broke the Honor Code in some manner and many of them were RMs. Being away from home for the first time, I did my share of pushing the limits, but like most I matured and grew to appreciate the Honor Code and my ability to live it.

Perhaps it is time to be less judgemental and save that job for those with the proper stewardship.

There is no reason to have a heated discussion about this now. No one here knows the details of what happened (and those that suggest they do know the details aren't telling). Save the debating, judgments, and name calling for when we actually have some evidence of the issues, rather than rank speculation.

And remember, whatever happens, it could be worse -- you could be a Yewt. UTAH SUCKS!