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I don't remember exactly but I thought BYU took care of it so that other school's athletes couldn't do this anymore to stay/get academically eligible Maybe it's because he's still a high school student though that he was able to do it.

 
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Gunk wrote:
Isola wrote:
WACoug wrote:

Yeah, generally speaking correspondence classes are a lot easier that attendance classes. I just hate it when they make BYU look like the school for dumb jocks that can't pass at their own school. I know it happens other places as well but I wish BYU would discontinue the practice.

I think the reason why BYU offers so many correspondence courses is to try to help women who get married and leave school when their husband graduates, finish their degrees from distance. Worthly goal, but in this case is does make BYU look soft on academics.


Totally agree...Here's a thought, though. Why not make the online courses just as hard as regular courses and encourage women to finish their degrees while they are at school? Or better yet, encouage the husbands to stick around a bit longer so their wives can finish their degrees.

Online courses from the University of Pheonix are harder than online BYU courses.

Just pointing out that the courses being described are high school equivalency courses, not college. I suspect the biggest advantage in some cases is that the athletes can get direct help and/or direct supervision from a family member or tutor since they're online. In school they are more likely to be on their own or might possibly be missing classes.

Also, we don't hear about students who take the courses but who don't pass or improve their grades. Are the courses really that much easier?

 
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Gunk wrote:
Totally agree...Here's a thought, though. Why not make the online courses just as hard as regular courses and encourage women to finish their degrees while they are at school? Or better yet, encouage the husbands to stick around a bit longer so their wives can finish their degrees.

Online courses from the University of Pheonix are harder than online BYU courses.

I think BYU already encourages women to finish their degrees in the classroom, but with many BYU women marrying early and starting families right away that is easier said than done. Also there are slim job prospects in Provo for husbands to take while the wife finishes. I don't blame couples who leave before the wife finishes, but I think it is great when women take the time, in Provo or online, to finish their degrees.

I think the way to make on-line courses harder is by giving them a fixed time frame. Give them an assignment today and it is due next week instead of giving them the entire schedule and saying, finish it within a year. At least for me it was the time crunch of classes that was the real challenge. I don't know if some of the classes are like this, but the correspondence courses I took in high school from BYU just had a date to have the course completed.

 
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Gunk wrote:
Isola wrote:
WACoug wrote:

Yeah, generally speaking correspondence classes are a lot easier that attendance classes. I just hate it when they make BYU look like the school for dumb jocks that can't pass at their own school. I know it happens other places as well but I wish BYU would discontinue the practice.

I think the reason why BYU offers so many correspondence courses is to try to help women who get married and leave school when their husband graduates, finish their degrees from distance. Worthly goal, but in this case is does make BYU look soft on academics.


Totally agree...Here's a thought, though. Why not make the online courses just as hard as regular courses and encourage women to finish their degrees while they are at school? Or better yet, encouage the husbands to stick around a bit longer so their wives can finish their degrees.

Online courses from the University of Pheonix are harder than online BYU courses.
or just advertise the courses as "just for stay-at-home moms, then when usc recruits have to take the courses they feel ashamed and play at some Division II school instead

 
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Man, I am ashamed of UCLA Bruin slight on Mormonism. IF the attack was a slight on any race or other religion such as Judaism, those types of comments would not be tolerated. I hope we can make sure that potential LDS recruits to UCLA get to see all these funny attacks of their church so they know the type of fan base they would be playing for.
http://www.bruinsnation.com/2008/6/6/547383/floyd-s-star-recruit-conve

 
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Mingjai wrote:
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USC recruit DeMar DeRozan boosted the chances he'll academically qualify to play for the Trojans by taking five BYU correspondence courses, and acing four of them. Is this the same correspondence program that shamed BYU a few years ago by allowing a number of football players nationwide to game their system and cheat to get good grades?

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"DeMar's father, Frank DeRozan, said his son had achieved four A's and a B in correspondence courses through Brigham Young University. Such courses are often used to boost high school grade-point averages."

LA Times blog article

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I really don't like when this happens. It makes it sound like the kid couldn't pass classes and USC so he takes the "(subject) for idiots" version at BYU and aces it. It makes it sound like BYU is an easy university which is certainly is not.


When I was at BYU, everyone on campus knew that if you wanted an easy A in a pain-in-the-can general ed class, all you had to do was sign up for the correspondence/online version of the class.


Why bother? Just challenge the course. I did that with several. Took the final exam, aced it and just picked up the grade. It allowed me to spend my time in more worthwhile pursuits (of the female persuasion).

 
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