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Re:BYWho? 2 Months, 3 Weeks ago Karma: -1  
jmchess1 wrote:
ESPN can call Utah whatever it wants (I'm sure you guys have), but the polls don't agree and the other wins were not against ranked teams. You can win all of the MWC games and Div II games (home and away) but it doesn't prove a thing as far as national recognition and the BCS rankings are concerned. BYU must schedule and win on the road against top ranked teams or else BYU will end up in Las Vegas again and again and again.


You mean to to be in the BCS championship.

To get into the BCS all that matters is a good record. It doesn't matter if you barely squeek by bad teams (Hawaii), whip a bunch of mediocre teams (Utah), or beat really good teams at home and weak sisters on the road (BSU). What they all had in common was an undefeated record and ZERO WINS ON THE ROAD AGAINST GOOD TEAMS. Yet they all made the BCS.
Two of them won their game.

To play for a BCS championship BYU would have to go undefeated and beat 2 to 3 really good teams (preferably on the road) after consistently getting to or contending for BCS spots.

 
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Re:BYWho? 2 Months, 3 Weeks ago Karma: 53  
jmchess1 wrote:
I am a BYU fan but let's be realistic fans, not a fan that just lives in a dream world. Tha facts are out there and BYWHo? has yet proven anything worthly of national attention. I sincerely hope that 2008 proves me wrong.


Oh no another "realist". Say it ain't so Joe. Say it ain't so.

 
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Re:BYWho? 2 Months, 3 Weeks ago Karma: -1  
Wow, jmchess1 must be really bored at work. This is one of the worst threads I've seen on this site in a long time. Let's stick to topics that actually need debating. I'm not sure you're on the right medium to discuss this useless topic.

 
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Re:BYWho? 2 Months, 3 Weeks ago Karma: 0  
jmchess1 wrote:
Come on you guys! BYWho? hasn't done anything yet that even hints that they are a major BCS bowl worthy team. They barely beat a so-so PAC team last year that had several key players missing and BYWho? was playing on a 'home' field. The BYWho? team under the current coach has yet to beat a good (top 15) team at an away game (Utah has not been a good or ranked team - though they destroyed UCLA last year).

In my mind the 2008 BYWho? team must win all of its games in a convincing manner (including a convincing win over Utah) and several of its opponents must be ranked at the time the game is played in order for the the BYWho? team to become a BYU team that I remember from the 80's.


I dont know what you are trying to prove with your post, but you sure sound like a loyal cougar fan to me! I cant imagine posting 430 messages on a board and then being so flippant about the team the board was created for! It is some kind of fan that is so dismissive of thier team even after going 22-4 in the last 2 years! You sound like the kid in middle school who is wearing a new NFL jersey every year based on who won the Superbowl. News for you jmchess thats not the deffinition of a fan, your post stinks of bandwagon! BYU may play in a weak conference compared to some but they are doing everything asked of them. If that isnt good enough for you I wish you luck in finding a team that meets your expectations. Maybe you can bless that teams' board with your postive and upbeat posts!

 
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Re:BYWho? 2 Months, 3 Weeks ago Karma: 2  
jmchess1 wrote:
The BYWho? team under the current coach has yet to beat a good (top 15) team at an away game.

How many top-15 teams have Bronco's BYU squads actually played on the road? I think UCLA was in the top-15 the first time we played them last year; I don't remember if BC was in the top-15 when we played them the year before. I don't think Cal was in the top-15 during the LV Bowl in 2005. So really, what's Bronco's record against top-15 teams on the road? Like 0-1?

So BYU had one shot at it and missed. Big freakin' deal. In 2005, BYU goes 6-6 with a new coach and a walk-on secondary. In 2006 they go 11-2 with a senior-heavy team, and dominate a respectable Oregon team in the bowl. 2007 was supposed to be a rebuilding year, after losing a senior QB, a senior TE, the senior leader of the defense, several key pieces of the OL, and BYU's all time leading rusher. And they still go 11-2, although the games were closer than the year before. Looks like steady progress to me.

I'm sure BYU would like to prove they are good by beating some highly ranked teams on the road. Scheduling, as as been discussed ad nauseum on this site, is always dicey. You schedule 2-5 years in advance, and sometimes the teams are good, and sometimes they're not. When BYU scheduled a home-and-home series with Miss. State in 2000-2001, it seemed like a way to gain respectibility by scheduling a highly ranked SEC team. MSU beat BYU 44-28 in 2000 in Provo as a ranked team (#14 or something like that). The next year, they inexplicably played terribly, and BYU ended up finishing its regular season at MSU, playing a team that was 2-8 or something like that by then.

IF, and I think it's still going to take a certain amount of luck, BYU manages to go through the 2008 season undefeated, then they deserve a shot at a quality opponent in a BCS bowl. The nice thing is that this year, as opposed to 1996 or 2001, it'll happen.

 
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Re:BYWho? 2 Months, 3 Weeks ago Karma: 48  
jmchess1 wrote:
I am a BYU fan but let's be realistic fans, not a fan that just lives in a dream world. Tha facts are out there and BYWHo? has yet proven anything worthly of national attention. I sincerely hope that 2008 proves me wrong.


1. Insists he's a BYU fan.
2. Insults BYU
3. Cries for "realism"
4. Derides hopes of BYU fans as "dreams"
5. Claims he hopes to be proved wrong
6. Cites "evidence" that BYU has no business on national stage.

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Airwolf! Welcome Back!

 
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