That was an awfully articulate way of coming to the same conclusion...that Mormonism is false. Wow, he must be really wrapped up in the subject! Seriously, I don't care about this guy's attempts to state his opinion "with no axe to grind or score to settle", he ultimately said the same most anti's say...that it is untrue. Well, mister, if comprehending "eternal progression" is difficult for you, how in the world is someone to comprehend a being that has no beginning, no ending, no mass, no body and no certain identity? During my mission I heard dozens of pastors, priests and ministers, as well as congregationalists try to tell me God, or Christ is an infinite being that has always been God and has no tangible identity or existence. I still struggle to see how someone could put faith in something so vague?

Metal Bubba wrote:

CAFB_04-12 wrote:

I know the football team is true. :lol:

With every fibre of my being I bear solemn testimony of the same.

But do you have a testimony of your roommate?

Heard any good faith promoting rumors lately?

Doesn't Ed Decker (of the Godmakers fame) live in the pacific northwest? I think he claimed to be a bishop and also to have attended BYU.

I guess it sort of makes sense to me that someone who would actually think "mainstream" is an indicator of truth where religion is concerned, would also be a Husky fan.

I loved reading this post. It's so outdated in its attitude. The whole "BYU wants to win games to prove their church is true" is the misconception that people seemed to promote twenty years ago. The donny and marie references fit right into place.

Amazing the guy has nothing better to do that get on a Husky board to run down the church...uh, respectfully that is.

Now the bit about a God that never changes, but also doesn't have flesh and bone. So in Luke 24:36 where a resurrected Jesus (fully God here by any stretch) goes out of his way to get his disciples to understand that he is NOT a spirit, was he changing back to spirit just after he left the room or before?

The only thing that never changes is that guy's schtick. I wonder why he didn't suggest that BYU should have named the stadium after Oliver Granger so they could keep Joseph Smith from being a false prophet? Sheesh what a missed opportunity.

We are not mainstream and don't want to be, and I know of no Mormons that even think or use the term 'mainstream' anyway. Clearly an Anti. The vocabulary proves it.

The original post reminds me of a wonderful quote by John Taylor, "When men say unto us, 'you are not like us' we reply, 'we know it; we do not want to be. We want to be like the Lord.'"

So I checked out the BYU alumni database, and there is no record of any Billy Warner, William Warner, Will Warner, etc. He never attended BYU, or least he never graduated. Maybe he hung out with Jim McMahon in the seventies and never actually made it to class (if you catch my drift). Considering his Mark Hoffman comment, that sounds like the most possible scenario.