blue42 wrote:

I hate to be the bringer of facts to the discussion, because I already have negative karma going against me on CB, but the main reason Duncan didn't get suspended was because he was still in the game. He didn't go to the bench until after the cheap shot by Horry. I didn't notice if Bowen was in the middle of the court, but if he was, he does deserve a suspension. He went to the bench and was replaced on the court by Horry. So if he did come out he should be suspended but not Duncan because he was still in the game.

If you're refering to the incident with Horry and Nash, yes, he was a player on the floor. If you're refering to the other "minor" incident in the 2nd Qtr, he was on the bench (at least that's what a lot of other posters are saying).

More negative Karma. Sorry, but the play involving Duncan on the court was different than the play where Nash was fouled.

The other play was earlier in the game and the non-altercation involved other players (I don't know how it isn't an altercation if it causes players to be out on the floor from the bench area).

MajorCougar wrote:

blue42 wrote:

I hate to be the bringer of facts to the discussion, because I already have negative karma going against me on CB, but the main reason Duncan didn't get suspended was because he was still in the game. He didn't go to the bench until after the cheap shot by Horry. I didn't notice if Bowen was in the middle of the court, but if he was, he does deserve a suspension. He went to the bench and was replaced on the court by Horry. So if he did come out he should be suspended but not Duncan because he was still in the game.

If you're refering to the incident with Horry and Nash, yes, he was a player on the floor. If you're refering to the other "minor" incident in the 2nd Qtr, he was on the bench (at least that's what a lot of other posters are saying).

Sorry my bad, I didn't see that play I just ASS-U-MEd everyone was talking about the play at the end of the game, but that's okay, keep piling on the negative karma, I can handle it, because my Mom says I am a good person.

joshuajohnson wrote:

More negative Karma. Sorry, but the play involving Duncan on the court was different than the play where Nash was fouled.

The other play was earlier in the game and the non-altercation involved other players (I don't know how it isn't an altercation if it causes players to be out on the floor from the bench area).

I finally saw that play and there really wasn't an altercation. There was no pushing, no nothing, they really did just run down the court. Duncan was just standing there (yes on the court I know) and Bowen did even less, I only saw him at the end of the incident. They didn't run onto the court or anything they just stood up. Again, I think Horry should have had a one game suspension and nobody else, I have seen a lot worse go unpunished at all.

One thing to keep in mind on the Duncan/Bowen ruling is the propensity to ignore things going on near the coaches box unless the altercation is taking place right there.

If the NBA suspended every player that stepped on the court to celebrate, yell at the officials, pump up their team, etc. every team would have ejections in every game. If coaches got technical fouls every time they stepped out of that box there would be 15 technical fouls shots per game.

The referees and the league lets players be expressive within the confines of their own bench, barring a severe altercation.

But it's one thing to take a step onto the court with an action happening 20 feet away and quite another to go rushing up the sidelines toward something that happened only five feet away, like Stoudamire and Diaw did.

And the truth of the matter is that Horry probably would've been suspended one game if Diaw and Stoudamire hadn't come onto the court. The arm to Raja Bell was purely reactionary to a guy getting in his face, which I think is clear to anyone who watches it with an open mind.

That's why I think the league didn't go after Baron Davis in the Golden State series, because nothing came of it. The Jazz just wanted to prove they could beat the Warriors and not sink to that level of play.

I could care less who wins this series, since I think either team will probably knock off the Jazz in six or seven games. It's just my opinion that people need to recognize these suspensions (or lack thereof) for what they are.

Post edited by: JaredLloyd, at: 2007/05/16 13:17<br><br>Post edited by: JaredLloyd, at: 2007/05/16 13:19

This is a topic not everyone can fully agree on. I listened to Stern defend his position then listened to someone else say how he was probably right, but you can't suspend someone from leaving the bench and not suspend someone who was ejected from the game because of clothslines ect.

I think the bench thing is the letter of the law, but they aren't addressing the spirit of the law that when you get ejected from a game for bullying someone, which is much more severe than simply leaving the bench, especially when you leave the bench and no harm was done, that action needs to be seriously considered.

I'm sure these things have been discussed by the higher up guys, but it's a mystery why NONE of these other instances are being issued punishments.