Cornellcoug wrote:

Theoretically Yes, practically no.

Exactly...even if we win out, don't count on a 6 or 5 seed. Maybe I just choose not to get my hopes up, but we're consistently seeded one or two spots lower than we deserve. Remember last year?

Yes, our RPI might end up better, our ranking could be better, and we have a better schedule this year, but we got stuck with an 8 seed last year with a very similar record and RPI of 18, and we still ended up with an 8 seed. We were all whinning about it last year.

If...if...we win out and get a 5 seed then I will be thrilled. Not counting on it, though.

Cornellcoug wrote:

timmyboy wrote:

If BYU wins out, craig is right - BYU will land a 4 or 5. That would be 16-1 over the last 17 games with likely 5 wins over RPI top 50 teams (likely) - 2 times over UNLV, 3 times over New Mexico.

Plus, they may have no losses to teams with less than 20 teams. Plus a good win over Louisville and some close losses to MSU and UNC. Great resume.

History has shown that even if BYU is deserving they do not get a seed that is very high. I would say that a 6 seed is about as high as they will get based on history even if they are ranked 16.

Cornellcoug - history actually points the opposite way. BYU has only had two teams with comparable records to what they would be if they won out (28-6).

Those two teams are the 1979-80 team (24-5) and the 1987-88 (26-6) teams. And guess what seeds they got - #3 and #4, respectively.

Interestingly, though, the next closest teams were '81 and '92 teams, with 7 losses each (but less wins than this year's teams, so lower winning percentage). Those teams got 6 and 10 seeds.

However, BYU's schedule was probably more difficult this year than all of those years. So, this team probably has an advantage in that respect.

That is why I predict that if BYU wins out, 4-5 seed. If they lose one game, 6-8 seed.

Another factor in the seeding is that the Committee has to place BYU in a Thursday-Saturday round. It seems to me that sometimes they may use this as an excuse to bump BYU down, despite the Cougs being otherwise qualified for a higher seed.

sjcougfan wrote:

If BYU gets a 4 or 5 seed, they will be a sweet 16 team, mark it down.

If BYU gets a 4 or 5 seed from the "powers that be" we can all go ice-skating in hell to celebrate. Not that BYU wouldn't deserve it, it's just not going to happen . . . what with the slow, untalented non-BCS athletes and all.

timmyboy wrote:

Cornellcoug wrote:

timmyboy wrote:

If BYU wins out, craig is right - BYU will land a 4 or 5. That would be 16-1 over the last 17 games with likely 5 wins over RPI top 50 teams (likely) - 2 times over UNLV, 3 times over New Mexico.

Plus, they may have no losses to teams with less than 20 teams. Plus a good win over Louisville and some close losses to MSU and UNC. Great resume.

History has shown that even if BYU is deserving they do not get a seed that is very high. I would say that a 6 seed is about as high as they will get based on history even if they are ranked 16.

Cornellcoug - history actually points the opposite way. BYU has only had two teams with comparable records to what they would be if they won out (28-6).

Those two teams are the 1979-80 team (24-5) and the 1987-88 (26-6) teams. And guess what seeds they got - #3 and #4, respectively.

Interestingly, though, the next closest teams were '81 and '92 teams, with 7 losses each (but less wins than this year's teams, so lower winning percentage). Those teams got 6 and 10 seeds.

However, BYU's schedule was probably more difficult this year than all of those years. So, this team probably has an advantage in that respect.

That is why I predict that if BYU wins out, 4-5 seed. If they lose one game, 6-8 seed.

The problem is that you are comparing different times. Back then they had 3 NBA players on the roster and were better respected than they are now.

We have GOT to beat UNLV in LV. Went to the game last year in the tournament and is was discouraging. Then got worked there earlier this year. To post our good season and then lose in MWC tournament doesn't fare well for us in rankings. We need to win out and that will help in years to come as far as respect, rankings, etc.

Go Cougars!!!!