frdbtr wrote:

A lot of you guys are talking about Trent not getting the coaching he needs to be successful in college. Folks, he will get NO coaching at the pro level. you guys talk about Dwight howard (top 3 pick) and others and those are the guys that pro teams work hard at developing because they have invested Millions of dollars in contracts to them. Trent will be a free agent or a 2nd round pick, those guys don't get squat because there is no commitment to him. Trent would have gotten better coaching at BYU his SR year. Having said that, Trent had plenty of time to improve his game at BYU. Dave Rose is not the reason Trent never developed a jump shot and never improved his free throw percentage. A below average post up game isn't going to cut it against taller more atheletic guys in the NBA.

I couldnot agree more. If those that do think he can improve now actually believe what they're saying, then they're also saying that the $$ was his only motivation for improvement.

That does nothing to improve my opinion of him. Give me 10 Keena Youngs over 1 Trent Plaisted - heck give me 1 Keena Young over 10 Trent Plaisteds. Why should we care about him, when he never cared about BYU; less you forget that he would have left after his freshman season if anyone would have paid him to do so.

And don't give me the "OMG what if potential recruits see this thread."

Since when did any potential recruit have any loyalty to Trent Plaisted? The guy didn't work and never improved. That's not going to scare off recruits, we've had plenty of players that have improved greatly. Bottom line, the best players are the ones that play all the time. I can't tell you how many times I saw Travis Hansen playing pickup games in the offseason- in fact it was rare to go to the gym and not see him there.

PP3 wrote:

I am also excited to see how Gavin McGregor Comes back from his injury.

Me too.

domanater wrote:

frdbtr wrote:

A lot of you guys are talking about Trent not getting the coaching he needs to be successful in college. Folks, he will get NO coaching at the pro level. you guys talk about Dwight howard (top 3 pick) and others and those are the guys that pro teams work hard at developing because they have invested Millions of dollars in contracts to them. Trent will be a free agent or a 2nd round pick, those guys don't get squat because there is no commitment to him. Trent would have gotten better coaching at BYU his SR year. Having said that, Trent had plenty of time to improve his game at BYU. Dave Rose is not the reason Trent never developed a jump shot and never improved his free throw percentage. A below average post up game isn't going to cut it against taller more atheletic guys in the NBA.

I couldnot agree more. If those that do think he can improve now actually believe what they're saying, then they're also saying that the $$ was his only motivation for improvement.

That does nothing to improve my opinion of him. Give me 10 Keena Youngs over 1 Trent Plaisted - heck give me 1 Keena Young over 10 Trent Plaisteds. Why should we care about him, when he never cared about BYU; less you forget that he would have left after his freshman season if anyone would have paid him to do so.

And don't give me the "OMG what if potential recruits see this thread."

Since when did any potential recruit have any loyalty to Trent Plaisted? The guy didn't work and never improved. That's not going to scare off recruits, we've had plenty of players that have improved greatly. Bottom line, the best players are the ones that play all the time. I can't tell you how many times I saw Travis Hansen playing pickup games in the offseason- in fact it was rare to go to the gym and not see him there.

Good points. A couple friends of mine would play pick-up ball with Keena. He was the same way.

Trent would have left BYU after his freshmen year if there was enough hype around him. He thought he was ready for the NBA three years ago, so why improve?

As for recruiting, as I said earlier, a BYU player getting drafted and not going anywhere in the NBA hurts us more on the recruiting front than posts on this site. Name one player in the last 10 years from BYU that's still playing in the NBA? None...that hurts us. Trent leaving for the NBA and not going anywhere hurts us.

lovelldog wrote:

Hengst wrote:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/st

no plaisted in the first round, what a surprise :dry:

I believe you can still make decent money by going in the second round.

Second round is the ultimate crapshoot

This is straight from the NBA:

"Second round contracts are unique. They may or may not be guaranteed, or they can be partially guaranteed. Many times players drafted in the second round will have their contracts guaranteed by being on the roster during specific set dates, say when the season starts or at the All-Star break. The bare minimum contract for a second-round pick is a one-year, non-guaranteed deal"

Sounds like you can also make no money by going in the second round.