I served as an Administrative Law Judge at the Utah State Tax Commission for over three years. In that time, I heard a lot of arguments about the tax system. However, I never heard one that was supported by a decision rendered by a court.

No court has ever ruled the 16th Amendment was not properly ratified, thus nullifying the validity of the income tax.

I agree that you ignore the tax system at your peril.

CougarPeasant wrote:

Airwolf84 wrote:

I did, but the IRS is NOT, I repeat... N O T a government agency... it is operated by the Central Bank, which steals your money, so any rule or law on their website mandating or authorizing the collection of a tax on our labor is not constitutional and null and void.

You remind me of those types who believe anti's are the only ones who have the truth on the LDS church rather than the LDS church itself.

The IRS is not a private organization. It is part of the US Treasury department, which has full cabinet status. Also, the site I gave you provides CASE LAW, recognizing the proper legality of the 16th amendment and the US Govt's right to collect taxes on personal income. Ignore it at your peril.

The U.S. Treasury is a branch of the federal reserve, which IS the Central Bank!!!

bengel wrote:

I served as an Administrative Law Judge at the Utah State Tax Commission for over three years. In that time, I heard a lot of arguments about the tax system. However, I never heard one that was supported by a decision rendered by a court.

No court has ever ruled the 16th Amendment was not properly ratified, thus nullifying the validity of the income tax.

I agree that you ignore the tax system at your peril.

Only 4 men in the history of our country have dared challenge the bankers and their 'operation'... Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Jackson, JFK and Ronald Reagan. What do all 4 have in common?

Airwolf84 wrote:The U.S. Treasury is a branch of the federal reserve, which IS the Central Bank!!![/quote]

Pursuant to section 7801, the Secretary of the Treasury has full authority to administer and enforce the internal revenue laws and has the power to create an agency to enforce such laws. Based upon this legislative grant, the IRS was created. Thus, the IRS is a body established by "positive law" because it was created through a congressionally mandated power. Moreover, section 7803(a) explicitly provides that there shall be a Commissioner of Internal Revenue who shall administer and supervise the execution and application of the internal revenue laws.

The IRS is legally entitled to execute the internal revenue laws. Your arguments are specious and only do a disservice to anyone here who might actually believe what you post has any validity. (I doubt anyone will believe you, but I had to add that exception.)

A quote from the US Department of Treasury website:

Statutory Authority
The IRS is organized to carry out the responsibilities of the secretary of the Treasury under section 7801 of the Internal Revenue Code. The secretary has full authority to administer and enforce the internal revenue laws and has the power to create an agency to enforce these laws. The IRS was created based on this legislative grant.
Section 7803 of the Internal Revenue Code provides for the appointment of a commissioner of Internal Revenue to administer and supervise the execution and application of the internal revenue laws.

Both my parents retired after many years of civil service as US department of treasury employees workling at the Ogden Service Center of the IRS. Tell them they didn't actually work for the government! And take away their Federal Retirement while your at it!

Airwolf does it again - hijacks the board for an afternoon!

Airwolf84 wrote:

bengel wrote:

I served as an Administrative Law Judge at the Utah State Tax Commission for over three years. In that time, I heard a lot of arguments about the tax system. However, I never heard one that was supported by a decision rendered by a court.

No court has ever ruled the 16th Amendment was not properly ratified, thus nullifying the validity of the income tax.

I agree that you ignore the tax system at your peril.

Only 4 men in the history of our country have dared challenge the bankers and their 'operation'... Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Jackson, JFK and Ronald Reagan. What do all 4 have in common?

You're nuts, you know that?! Now you're saying that all four were assassinated (or an attempt was made) because they threatened to uncover the "truth" about these mysterious "bankers"! ROFL!!!! You give these people WAY TOO MUCH credit in the old smarts and creativity departments! These folks can't even balance the federal budget for a single year, let alone carry on a vast conspiracy of this nature and complexity for nearly a 100 years.