Uncle Iroh wrote:

The thing that worries me is that it sounds a lot like the year we played A&M in the Holiday Bowl, and everybody complained that they weren't a good enough opponent, then they come out and completely wax us.

You just made me physically shudder. That game is my absolute worst BYU memory EVER. And the attitude of the fans and media this year reminds me of it, too.

Uncle Iroh wrote:

teldeman wrote:

Hey,
In my opinion our Bowl history had less to do with our competition and more to do with NOT having adequate practive facilities during December before hte indoor practice facility was built. I think we ought to count our bowl winning percentage from that time

I think that the old bowl history has more to do with the team thinking it was vacation, than a springboard for the next year.

Agreed. We've had the indoor facility since 2003. Since then, two losing seasons, one bowl loss, one bowl win. Sure it helps preparation, but the decider is attitude.

jimmyz2 wrote:

Uncle Iroh wrote:

The thing that worries me is that it sounds a lot like the year we played A&M in the Holiday Bowl, and everybody complained that they weren't a good enough opponent, then they come out and completely wax us.

You just made me physically shudder. That game is my absolute worst BYU memory EVER. And the attitude of the fans and media this year reminds me of it, too.

I'm with you. I still have a picture of RC Slocum at the bottom of the toilet in my house. That game was the hardest to watch out of all the games, I still remember watching and listening to the announcers on ESPN talk about how Lavell wouldn't go out and shake RC's hand, and how they didn't blame him. I still root against A&M to this day because of it.

Uncle Iroh wrote:

jimmyz2 wrote:

Uncle Iroh wrote:

The thing that worries me is that it sounds a lot like the year we played A&M in the Holiday Bowl, and everybody complained that they weren't a good enough opponent, then they come out and completely wax us.

You just made me physically shudder. That game is my absolute worst BYU memory EVER. And the attitude of the fans and media this year reminds me of it, too.

I'm with you. I still have a picture of RC Slocum at the bottom of the toilet in my house.;) That game was the hardest to watch out of all the games, I still remember watching and listening to the announcers on ESPN talk about how Lavell wouldn't go out and shake RC's hand, and how they didn't blame him. I still root against A&M to this day because of it.

I am with all of you. The A&M loss in the bowl game was tough to watch.

I loved the win over A&M in 1996 even more than the Cotton Bowl win over K state that year.

I know we will have played UCLA 3 times in a year, but I don't want to let them out of their contract, unless we can fill it with a similar caliber team (ie middle of a BCS conference or Boise or Hawaii). It is the biggest game on the home schedule next year. Utah, AF, ASU, and TCU are all away games. Even for all you in-state rivalry people out there, USU is on the road.

If we don't keep UCLA or have a similar draw next year, the home games are going to be D-1AA opponent, another bad team, New Mexico, Wyoming, SDSU, and UNLV. That's a great sell to the home fans. I hope that Holmoe looks at this and says no way are we dropping them, unless they get a similar team.

stuckinbig10country wrote:

I know we will have played UCLA 3 times in a year, but I don't want to let them out of their contract, unless we can fill it with a similar caliber team (ie middle of a BCS conference or Boise or Hawaii). It is the biggest game on the home schedule next year. Utah, AF, ASU, and TCU are all away games. Even for all you in-state rivalry people out there, USU is on the road.

If we don't keep UCLA or have a similar draw next year, the home games are going to be D-1AA opponent, another bad team, New Mexico, Wyoming, SDSU, and UNLV. That's a great sell to the home fans. I hope that Holmoe looks at this and says no way are we dropping them, unless they get a similar team.

And it will be next to impossible to get a middle of the pack BCS (or even top rated BCS) team to come to LES. So if they let them out it would need to be a road game (which Holme won't do), or a very weak team that just wants the money.