Fully_Invested_Fan wrote:

ltpwfdcm wrote:

Navy got screwed on the Utrah 3rd down play. That should have been a touchback and Navy ball on the 20.

I don't get that call, they guy was in the air and the ball hit the pile on, and the pile on is part of the goal line.

The only thing I can think of is the reviewing official did not know the rule and was looking to see if the ball crossed the line and checking to see if it was a touchdown.

The pylon is part of the goal line, but once control is lost, it becomes part of the sideline. A fumble by an offensive player that goes through the endzone is a turnover and touchback. The refs blew a very simple and obvious call.

I don't think it cost Navy the game because I'm not sure they would have driven 80 yards for the tying or winning score, but the refs cost them that chance.

From the NCAA Rule book:
Rule Four, Section Two, Article 3 A and B: "A ball not in player possess, other than a kick that scores a field goal, is out of bounds withn it touches the ground, a player, a game official or anything else that is on or outside a boundary line.
"A ball that touches a pylon is out of bounds behind the goal line."

And from Rule Eight, Section Six, Article 1: "Team A's fumble strikes the plyon at the intersection of Team B's goal line and sideline. RULING: Team B's ball at the 20-yard line (Rule 7-2-4-b)."

The rule is clear and the officials missed it.

You're going to get more tired. Thats 7 straight.

bball wrote:

Thankfully it's not Musberger, it's the "A" crew, Mark May, Lou Holtz, et al. It's probably why I'm enjoying the game--plus Utah is getting beat by Navy. I got tired of Utah fans' yapping about all their bowl victories.

I heard before, and now after, about a fan flying that airplane with the banner. I see both positives and negatives to that:

Positive: Gives the rivalry some national exposure, showing the nation that we can compete with, "Rudy Sucks!"

Negative: What have BYU fans done to warrant this kind of taunting with two consecutive wins over their rivals? I mean, freakin' A!, Utah beat us four times in a row THIS DECADE! They owned us for almost five years before we could do anything about it! They could have flown a B-2 with a banner after that performance, and we could only sit on our seats, fold our arms, and make that Lavell scowl because we could do nothing about it!

I hope we never lose to Utah again, after this flighty episode. I mean I REALLY hope we don't because I don't want to see what the U fans would have in store for us.

Airwolf84 wrote:

I'm surprised no one has started a thread yet for this game. I like the Utes ...

Yeah... now see... about that.

Since you are officially, totally OUTing yourself as a Ute, I can say that it's understandable why you're so surprised. I guess I thought the color scheme was a bigger clue than that.

But then again, you've always been a bit short on having clues anyway.

I watched this game...well, 3 and 1/4 quarters of it...sweet deal with the Dukies going into overtime, btw.

I rooted for Navy...and no, I won't defend not rooting for a fellow conference team in a bowl game.

I have but just a few thoughts on this thing.

1) Navy has no semblence of defense, yet they stymied Yewtah's O until the Yewts tried stretching the field. Either Ludwig VonBeethoven doesn't trust BJ's arm, or he's just too slow to re-act and adjust - it almost cost them a game they should have easily won.

2) Yewtah still can't defend the option. You play AFA every year. How in the world do you not get better at it? Yewtah always seems to struggle against anything on the edge...here's a hint fellas: slow LB's (and only 3 on the field due to the 4-3) and cornerbacks being asked to be the contain man at the point of attack. Oh, and Robert Johnson doesn't want to have to tackle another RB on a pitch again after last night I promise you.

3) Yewtah still can't get a foot when they need it. Good thing the Navy D was dead by time the Yewts got the ball back inside the 20 or the Yewts lose another game because they are pu$$ie$ up front.

4) If you stop the trick plays, Yewtah struggles to score. Navy did it well until Brooks breaks the reverse for the TD. BYU stopped that non-sense and it killed Yewtah's offense.

All in all, Navy COULD have won this game easily based on the opportunities they left on the field, and Yewtah SHOULD have won this game easily given Navy's defensive deficiencies.

Good to see a RM head coach who happens to be Poly as well. Big fan of the guy.

Yzzazz wrote:

Airwolf84 wrote:

I'm surprised no one has started a thread yet for this game. I like the Utes ...

Yeah... now see... about that.

Since you are officially, totally OUTing yourself as a Ute, I can say that it's understandable why you're so surprised. I guess I thought the color scheme was a bigger clue than that.

But then again, you've always been a bit short on having clues anyway.

Yeah, you're right... what was I thinking picking Utah 42-35 in a shootout?