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Re:Hawaii Ready To Rumble 9 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 50  
So the next question is where does BYU finish this year?

I think Hawaii will take a huge nosedive

We'll pass Clemson, Illinois and I imagine Hawaii

Arizona State? Florida?

Potentially we could end up as high as 11-12 but I'm guessing 14 sounds about right

BCS Standings
1. Ohio State 11-1
2. LSU 11-2
3. Virginia Tech 11-2
4. Oklahoma 11-2
5. Georgia 10-2
6. Missouri 11-2
7. USC 10-2
8. Kansas 11-1
9. West Virginia 10-2
10. Hawaii 12-0
11. Arizona State 10-2
12. Florida 9-3
13. Illinois 9-3
14. Boston College 10-3
15. Clemson 9-3
16. Tennessee 9-4
17. BYU 10-2
18. Wisconsin 9-3
19. Texas 9-3
20. Virginia 9-3
21. South Florida 9-3
22. Cincinnati 9-3
23. Auburn 8-4
24. Boise State 10-2
25. UConn 9-3

 
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Re:Hawaii Ready To Rumble 9 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 7  
sjcougfan wrote:
I have read several comments from people saying Hawaii's pathetic performance hurts BYU's chances to make a BC$ game, my question is why?
If BYU is ranked in the top 12 and meets whatever other qualifications that are in place, then they get in, plain and simple, if you want to argue that the loss will make it harder for BYU to move up in the rankings, I suppose that arguement might have some validity.


You are right, it will not make a difference.

Unless the BCS changes the rule regarding SOS in the formula, Hawaiis performance will have absolutley no bearing on whether BYU get's in to the BCS. They will continue to move up the polls AS LONG AS THEY WIN. Plain and simple.

 
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Re:Hawaii Ready To Rumble 9 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 85  
craigoscarson wrote:
So the next question is where does BYU finish this year?

I think Hawaii will take a huge nosedive

We'll pass Clemson, Illinois and I imagine Hawaii

Arizona State? Florida?

Potentially we could end up as high as 11-12 but I'm guessing 14 sounds about right

BCS Standings
1. Ohio State 11-1
2. LSU 11-2
3. Virginia Tech 11-2
4. Oklahoma 11-2
5. Georgia 10-2
6. Missouri 11-2
7. USC 10-2
8. Kansas 11-1
9. West Virginia 10-2
10. Hawaii 12-0
11. Arizona State 10-2
12. Florida 9-3
13. Illinois 9-3
14. Boston College 10-3
15. Clemson 9-3
16. Tennessee 9-4
17. BYU 10-2
18. Wisconsin 9-3
19. Texas 9-3
20. Virginia 9-3
21. South Florida 9-3
22. Cincinnati 9-3
23. Auburn 8-4
24. Boise State 10-2
25. UConn 9-3



My prediction: we will pass 2-3 teams and get jumped by Texas. Final standing of 15th. Not to bad for losing a whole lotta stars from last years team.

 
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Re:Hawaii Ready To Rumble 9 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 4  
I doubt our narrow escape against 6-7 UCLA impressed anyone outside of Cougar Nation. A win is a win and we may move up just based on the record given many voters probably did not even watch the game.

Re BCS next year, you need to understand the effect the voters have on the rankings. Utah and BSU made it hard for voters to blow off mid-majors who are undefeated. UH just made that easier.

It looked like UH got whipped by the #5 team in the country. That might have been the number 1 team in the nation. It sure looked like the #1 defense in the country - even better than the UCLA defense that shut us right down.

I suggest we wait and see what we have next year and let them prove it on the field. They will have that opportunity early and often. If BYU goes 12-0, they will still get in the BCS. If they go 11-1, they better hope the BCS has the mediocre field they had this year, and that Notre Dame still sucks, and that the MWC shows well against BCS teams, etc., or they will not get the ranking needed. If they had been 11-1 this year with only a loss to UCLA, I do not think they would have gotten ranked high enough to force thier way in.

Don't forget that it also depends on whether Boise State or some other Mid Major runs the table. Not clear who that would be next year, but there seems to be one every year lately.

Check all BCS Major Powers, except PAC 10 who has not yet joined the trend and you will find

Teams playing only required conference games on the road and scheduling home games with 2-3 cupcakes for non-conference. If you only go on the road 4-5 times and have 2-3 gimmes at home, the BCS conspiracy is trying to ensure tha there are plenty of BCS 12-0, 11-1, and 10-2 teams to fill the top 12 slots.

BCS teams are refusing to play mid-majors as they do not want to take the risk of losing once in a while and they also do not want to give the mid-majors opportunities to get ranked high. It is a conspiracy.

In 2007, this happened to UH when a BCS opponent backed out. They begged Michigan to play them. Michigan went with Appalachian State instead and lost, but just won their bowl game.

The name of the game has become do not lose.

Bib

 
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Re:Hawaii Ready To Rumble 9 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 15  
detmer4prez wrote:
craigoscarson wrote:
So the next question is where does BYU finish this year?

I think Hawaii will take a huge nosedive

We'll pass Clemson, Illinois and I imagine Hawaii

Arizona State? Florida?

Potentially we could end up as high as 11-12 but I'm guessing 14 sounds about right

BCS Standings
1. Ohio State 11-1
2. LSU 11-2
3. Virginia Tech 11-2
4. Oklahoma 11-2
5. Georgia 10-2
6. Missouri 11-2
7. USC 10-2
8. Kansas 11-1
9. West Virginia 10-2
10. Hawaii 12-0
11. Arizona State 10-2
12. Florida 9-3
13. Illinois 9-3
14. Boston College 10-3
15. Clemson 9-3
16. Tennessee 9-4
17. BYU 10-2
18. Wisconsin 9-3
19. Texas 9-3
20. Virginia 9-3
21. South Florida 9-3
22. Cincinnati 9-3
23. Auburn 8-4
24. Boise State 10-2
25. UConn 9-3



My prediction: we will pass 2-3 teams and get jumped by Texas. Final standing of 15th. Not to bad for losing a whole lotta stars from last years team.


Detmer and Craig - I would agree with your analysis except... they don't release post-bowl game BCS standings.

BYU will likely end up 14-15 in both the USA Today and AP polls, so I get your gist.

 
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Re:Hawaii Ready To Rumble 9 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 27  
All I have to say is where is Island Pipeline now!!!! He's talked all this crap for months how good the Bows are? Blah! blah! blah! Ya we barely beat a mediocre team! But we still won! The only reason Hawaii was in a BCS bowl because they had a terrible schedule! And a lot of luck on their side! They were this close losing too San Jose State! Lousiana Tech and Washington. All three were not very good teams! I am saying that we deserved a bcs bowl this year? No not really. But I don't think Hawaii was more deserving then we were! New Mexico, Utah and Air Force could and would beat Hawaii! So suck on that Island Pipelne!

 
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