Ygridiron4ever wrote:

A quote from the US Department of Treasury website:

Statutory Authority
The IRS is organized to carry out the responsibilities of the secretary of the Treasury under section 7801 of the Internal Revenue Code. The secretary has full authority to administer and enforce the internal revenue laws and has the power to create an agency to enforce these laws. The IRS was created based on this legislative grant.
Section 7803 of the Internal Revenue Code provides for the appointment of a commissioner of Internal Revenue to administer and supervise the execution and application of the internal revenue laws.

Both my parents retired after many years of civil service as US department of treasury employees workling at the Ogden Service Center of the IRS. Tell them they didn't actually work for the government! And take away their Federal Retirement while your at it!

Airwolf does it again - hijacks the board for an afternoon!

Of course they're going to get a government reirement package... the government uses private banks to fund its operations, so even though the IRS is an illegally-created institution by the Central Bank, it is operating under the guise of a federal government agency. The 'Fed' and private bankers (Central Bank) are one of the same as far as operations go, but the Central Bank is NOT a government agency! Allow me to introduce you to a few quotes:

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered

Airwolf84 wrote:

Ygridiron4ever wrote:

A quote from the US Department of Treasury website:

Statutory Authority
The IRS is organized to carry out the responsibilities of the secretary of the Treasury under section 7801 of the Internal Revenue Code. The secretary has full authority to administer and enforce the internal revenue laws and has the power to create an agency to enforce these laws. The IRS was created based on this legislative grant.
Section 7803 of the Internal Revenue Code provides for the appointment of a commissioner of Internal Revenue to administer and supervise the execution and application of the internal revenue laws.

Both my parents retired after many years of civil service as US department of treasury employees workling at the Ogden Service Center of the IRS. Tell them they didn't actually work for the government! And take away their Federal Retirement while your at it!

Airwolf does it again - hijacks the board for an afternoon!

Of course they're going to get a government reirement package... the government uses private banks to fund its operations, so even though the IRS is an illegally-created institution by the Central Bank, it is operating under the guise of a federal government agency. The 'Fed' and private bankers (Central Bank) are one of the same as far as operations go, but the Central Bank is NOT a government agency! Allow me to introduce you to a few quotes:

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered

Only one incomplete quote, without attribution. Sorry, that doesn't cut it.

What the heck is going on with these posts being cut off after submission???

TeenWolf, does your silence indicate you have no source on this?? Its a pretty bold statement to suggest a US President told the country he "destroyed his Nation" especially with nothing to back it up.

Wilson said in 1919, six years after signing the Federal Reserve Act "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial system is now controlled by its system of credit. We are no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

Wilson went to his grave regretting the creation of the Federal Reserve Bank.

Ever hear of a search engine?

Wilson's quote can be found in the Senate Documents Co. 3, No. 23, 76th Congress, 1st session, 1939.

Airwolf84 wrote:

TeenWolf, does your silence indicate you have no source on this?? Its a pretty bold statement to suggest a US President told the country he "destroyed his Nation" especially with nothing to back it up.

Wilson said in 1919, six years after signing the Federal Reserve Act "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial system is now controlled by its system of credit. We are no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

Wilson went to his grave regretting the creation of the Federal Reserve Bank.

Ever hear of a search engine?

It's pretty sad when even wikipedia doubts the authenticity of a quote. Ever hear the one from President Packer about how a hush will fall over the hosts of heaven and they will bow to the generation of Gordon B. Hinckley?? Just another made up quote with a name attached to give it a bit more oomph....but they never really said it.

This "quote" is actually a hobbled together fabrication from two of Wilson's speeches.

The first, given in 1911:

A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men who, even if their action be honest and intended for the public interest, are necessarily concentrated upon the great undertakings in which their own money is involved and who necessarily, by very reason of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom.

And the second, given in 1913, 4 months prior his signature in question:

We are at the parting of the ways. We have, not one or two or three, but many, established and formidable monopolies in the United States. We have, not one or two, but many, fields of endeavor into which it is difficult, if not impossible, for the independent man to enter. We have restricted credit, we have restricted opportunity, we have controlled development, and we have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world -- no longer a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.

Both speeches were given prior to his bringing the Federal Reserve to fruition, hence he could not have expressed regret for having done so. In actuality, both speeches were given as arguments FOR the Federal Reserve. It is also of note that in none of the known speeches of Woodrow Wilson at the Library of Congress has he ever uttered the phrase "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country" in that form or any of its derivatives.

As for a source, John M. Cooper, widely regarded as the historian most familiar with Woodrow Wilson, has stated "I can tell you categorically that this is not a statement of regret for having created the Federal Reserve. Wilson never had any regrets for having done that. It was an accomplishment in which he took great pride."

Good luck finding your "quote" published by any reputable source Wolf-boy.