I am probably going to get stoned for this, but I am a little disappointed in Rose. I know he's a good coach and all, but I'm not impressed with his ability to get our guys ready to play.

I know he can't change whether a player is shooting poorly (shooting it from half court) or not giving it their all, but he's in charge of getting the team ready and motivating them.

Look at what Krueger has done with UNLV this year. The tallest guy on their team is 6'6", yet Krueger looked at what he had, pumped up his players and game up with a strategy that fits his team.

I get the impression Rose trys more to get the players to form to a certain strategy rather than creating a style of play that fits his players. Maybe that's just me though.

I also haven't been impressed with Rose's ability to make adjustments during games. He need to call more timeouts in the 2nd half of today's game to rest his players and fire them up. Instead we had literally all our timeouts left going into the last 2 min of the game.

I agree with you about Rose. As a solid BYU fan who sat on the second row for tonight's game, wearing my Cougar Blue shirt, I thought that tonight's game was winnable as was the UNLV game. Whatever we are doing to prepare is not working and adjustments need to be made. I was shocked that we let Carter get open as much as we did tonight. Granted, he made some tough shots, but when you are guarding a shooter like him, you can't leave to help elsewhere....and that happened constantly tonight. We are lucky that we didn't pay more for that.

I have some other thoughts on the team and the game, but I'll keep my own counsel for tonight. Let's just say that I'm disappointed with the performance tonight because I thought (and hope) that we are a better team than we showed.

http://www.cougarblue.com/content/view/12139/90/
Some interesting quotes by the AM coach. I don't like how he comes across in the reading of it but it is telling to me.

"We got wide-open looks," Turgeon said. "And we practiced it all week. We knew they were going to do it and we were prepared for it and we knocked them down.

"The one thing is, we scouted the heck out of them. ... They average 74. We held them to 62 points. I feel like we knew every one of their sets. I got a million of them, and we might not run them because it's taken me so long to figure this team out. They might not know all our sets."

For all the video work our coordinator does to provide virtually every team in the country with footage, we should never be "out scouted". On that note, we ought to know our own tendencies better than anybody and change things up. When you do the same thing from start to finish, the scouting has to be fairly easy for an opponent.
Mendenhall has commented before that the more you show in a game, the more challenges you give to future teams because they now have to deal with those looks preparing for you because they never know when they may appear again.

cougarfan144 wrote:

http://www.cougarblue.com/content/view/12139/90/
Some interesting quotes by the AM coach. I don't like how he comes across in the reading of it but it is telling to me.

"We got wide-open looks," Turgeon said. "And we practiced it all week. We knew they were going to do it and we were prepared for it and we knocked them down.

"The one thing is, we scouted the heck out of them. ... They average 74. We held them to 62 points. I feel like we knew every one of their sets. I got a million of them, and we might not run them because it's taken me so long to figure this team out. They might not know all our sets."

For all the video work our coordinator does to provide virtually every team in the country with footage, we should never be "out scouted". On that note, we ought to know our own tendencies better than anybody and change things up. When you do the same thing from start to finish, the scouting has to be fairly easy for an opponent.
Mendenhall has commented before that the more you show in a game, the more challenges you give to future teams because they now have to deal with those looks preparing for you because they never know when they may appear again.

Bball is a little different. You don't "change things up". You take other options. On just about every play, you have several options. The idea is to get someone open. They may know your offense, but if you run it correctly, it should still be very hard to stop. If the passes are good, the screens done correctly etc, players will get open. Plays are designed to keep going until they get someone open or until they get a mismatch like a 6'1" guard in the post against Cummard.

I think Rose probably was a little outcoached in the game, and perhaps a little is due to scouting. I thought, for example, that it took way too long to , but nothing was really done until the second half. Given what Rose has to work with and the inherent limitations in BYU bb, I think he deserves a lot of credit. I wouldn't paint Turgeon as a uber-coach. In all his film studies, he apparently forgot to watch his own gamefilm, as his team committed a lot of turnovers with some very sloppy play. He knows that had BYU made their free throws, that fact alone would likely have handed him a loss. Missed free throws has very little to do with coaching on the other side.

Gunk wrote:

I am probably going to get stoned for this, but I am a little disappointed in Rose. I know he's a good coach and all, but I'm not impressed with his ability to get our guys ready to play.

I know he can't change whether a player is shooting poorly (shooting it from half court) or not giving it their all, but he's in charge of getting the team ready and motivating them.

Look at what Krueger has done with UNLV this year. The tallest guy on their team is 6'6", yet Krueger looked at what he had, pumped up his players and game up with a strategy that fits his team.

I get the impression Rose trys more to get the players to form to a certain strategy rather than creating a style of play that fits his players. Maybe that's just me though.

I also haven't been impressed with Rose's ability to make adjustments during games. He need to call more timeouts in the 2nd half of today's game to rest his players and fire them up. Instead we had literally all our timeouts left going into the last 2 min of the game.

You are correct on your take on Rose. He can't get his team ready for the big game. We lose the big ones about 4-1. Unfortunately BYU sucks at basketball and it will continue for the, well, it will continue. We do this every year and I don't see why it will change anytime soon.