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What do you mean it's a system thing Lovell? If Trent had anything else besides what he has shown us, he'd use it I think. Do you honestly think the kid has a 10 foot jumper he's keeping in his back pocket on account of the offensive scheme?

 
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What do you mean it's a system thing Lovell? If Trent had anything else besides what he has shown us, he'd use it I think. Do you honestly think the kid has a 10 foot jumper he's keeping in his back pocket on account of the offensive scheme?


No I don't think he has a 10 ft jumper in his back pocket. I should clarify it isn't just a system thing but partly the players around him. Trent would play best if he was able to use his athletism more by moving around more and getting the ball while he is moving towards the basket.

Unfortunately the only way a player on BYU can pass the ball to Trent is to give it to him when he is posting up. How many times have you seen Trent get fronted by a player and one of our guys lob it over his head for the easy bucket? Rarely if never. I think that is part of the style of offense and the lack of passing ability by BYU players. I think that may not be as evident next year because I think Fredette will turn into a great passer especially when he draws people to him because he can drive to the hoop.

Go back and watch the Louisville game sometime and I think you will see him doing what he does best. Maybe partly he just needs to move more but I think more than that it is the players around him that dictate a system.

 
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mormonrasta wrote:
Real.Men.Wear.Blue wrote:
I don't think abandoning your (free) college education is great decision. The percentage of NBA draftees that are actually able to make a profitable career is very, very small.


Actually it's very, very high.

Considering 1st round picks get guaranteed money and many 2nd round picks make it into the NBA the money they will receive would be at minimum 6 to 7 times greater than the average college graduate would receive.

Spend 1 or 2 years in the NBA and another couple of years in Europe. It is very likely that the scant 4 year "career" would be more profitable than the lifetime career of many college graduates.


Yeah but, like, they never get edducatted

 
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lovelldog wrote:
MizzouCoug wrote:
What do you mean it's a system thing Lovell? If Trent had anything else besides what he has shown us, he'd use it I think. Do you honestly think the kid has a 10 foot jumper he's keeping in his back pocket on account of the offensive scheme?


No I don't think he has a 10 ft jumper in his back pocket. I should clarify it isn't just a system thing but partly the players around him. Trent would play best if he was able to use his athletism more by moving around more and getting the ball while he is moving towards the basket.

Unfortunately the only way a player on BYU can pass the ball to Trent is to give it to him when he is posting up. How many times have you seen Trent get fronted by a player and one of our guys lob it over his head for the easy bucket? Rarely if never. I think that is part of the style of offense and the lack of passing ability by BYU players. I think that may not be as evident next year because I think Fredette will turn into a great passer especially when he draws people to him because he can drive to the hoop.

Go back and watch the Louisville game sometime and I think you will see him doing what he does best. Maybe partly he just needs to move more but I think more than that it is the players around him that dictate a system.


Agree with you here, Lovell. It's kind of odd too since Rose's style of play is supposed to be more of a free-flowing transition type offense, but unless we're on a fast break our passes, especially to Trent, were always the same, which made us very easy to scout. Trent always got the ball with his back to basket posted up. It usually came from a little spin pass from Cummard or Murdock. Trent would than back down a bit and do some weird looking hook.

UNLV saw this and noticed Trent has a hard time making that weird looking hook from anything further than 5 feet from the basket. Since they are considerably smaller than Trent, their answer for defending him was to simply move Trent further from the basket. They did this by pressuring our guards at half court. Since our guards stunk they picked up their dribble too early and were caught at half court and then had to pass to JT or Lee who were now past the arc. To help Lee and JT, Trent shifted out further too, putting him out of his range. He can't make baskets further than 8 feet out. It was a very ingenious plan by UNLV.

What's frustrating is not only were our players unable to adjust and get out of their routine, but Rose failed to come up with a counter take. As much as I like Rose he stinks at making adjustments during games. I don't know if he just doesn't see it or if he just can't put together plans to counter other teams' onslaughts. Whatever the reason it's a major reason we lost games this season and I think our biggest obstacle to success.

 
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Good, He's overrated.

 
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Beef05 wrote:
Good, He's overrated.


I don't know about overrated, all the mock drafts I have seen don't have him going in the first round but rather the 2nd which I think is legitimate.

Besides who cares whether he is overrated or not he is still by far the best post player on the team and one of the best two players on the team without question. How can him leaving be good unless you are excited to see him go on his career?

 
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