Mingjai wrote:

I have a different conclusion than you--

To reach elite status, play in a tough enough conference so that if you win your conference, no one cares that you played 4 patsies at home to start the season. Though I'm guessing that even some of the non-brand name schools from the BCS conferences would have to have a signature non-conference win to get any serious consideration for the national championship game.

How do you suggest that BYU get itself into one of the so-called tough conferences with their tough schedules? Im sure Holmoe would be interested in any offers from the Big XII or the PAC-10.

Knucklehead wrote:

Mingjai wrote:

I have a different conclusion than you--

To reach elite status, play in a tough enough conference so that if you win your conference, no one cares that you played 4 patsies at home to start the season. Though I'm guessing that even some of the non-brand name schools from the BCS conferences would have to have a signature non-conference win to get any serious consideration for the national championship game.

How do you suggest that BYU get itself into one of the so-called tough conferences with their tough schedules? Im sure Holmoe would be interested in any offers from the Big XII or the PAC-10.

I picture a BCS conference commisioner in a velvet robe sipping brandy and smoking a cigar saying, "Don't be silly, old boy. Don't you know that's why the BCS was created in the first place?" (Spoken, for some reason, in a Harvard accent.)

BYUtx wrote:

Knucklehead wrote:

Mingjai wrote:

I have a different conclusion than you--

To reach elite status, play in a tough enough conference so that if you win your conference, no one cares that you played 4 patsies at home to start the season. Though I'm guessing that even some of the non-brand name schools from the BCS conferences would have to have a signature non-conference win to get any serious consideration for the national championship game.

How do you suggest that BYU get itself into one of the so-called tough conferences with their tough schedules? Im sure Holmoe would be interested in any offers from the Big XII or the PAC-10.

I picture a BCS conference commisioner in a velvet robe sipping brandy and smoking a cigar saying, "Don't be silly, old boy. Don't you know that's why the BCS was created in the first place?" (Spoken, for some reason, in a Harvard accent.)

Actually I'm picturing Barry Switzer and a Billy Bob Yeehaw, sitting at a NASCAR race, laughing and guzzling beer as they discuss how they sure fixed it so those upstarts out in the "no-name" conferences can't "steal" another championship 'cause dey don't know nuttin' 'bout football.

Anyone predicting an upset in that first week?

Go 'Bows!

mormonrasta wrote:

Mingjai wrote:

I have a different conclusion than you--

To reach elite status, play in a tough enough conference so that if you win your conference, no one cares that you played 4 patsies at home to start the season. Though I'm guessing that even some of the non-brand name schools from the BCS conferences would have to have a signature non-conference win to get any serious consideration for the national championship game.

That was my conclusion too.

If BYU wants the same postseason considerations as the "elite" schools, then they need to schedule a nonconference schedule with the average strength of a typical BCS conference schedule.

I tend to agree, but it brings up the challenge of how to get schools to schedule us. Too many of us express the opinion that the big boys won't schedule us home and home. Even if we had a playoff, some of the conference champions would obviously not be worthy. In some years, second place teams in some leagues are only a play away from winning their conference and going BCSnn versus being an also ran. Those years need legitimate wild cards.

It would seem to me that the NCAA should make a size of conference minimum in order to schedule a true national champion.

Is there anybody that has an idea on how to motivate big schools to play us so that having that kind of a schedule is possible?

Cougy_Monster wrote:

The bc$ conferences are all self-serving. They know if they set up true home-home series with good non-bc$ teams they will be exposed.

Of all of the big-10 teams, I think only ohio st would win the MWC this year if it had to play a true MWC schedule (including playing bc$ teams on the road for an OOC schedule).

In fact, I don't think there are more than 5 teams in the country that could beat the top 3 MWC teams on the road in 3 consecutive weeks.

Big order to even get them to play us, and that is why I quote you in this post because it points to my question and hope somebody has a good idea how to get them to come.