Cougy_Monster wrote:

Why do we continue to schedule PAC-10 teams? Their refs cheat and their fans are bigots.

Let's branch out a bit and schedule some games in a real conference.

Easy now, don't need to generalize the same way these people are on that Husky board. I'm a "pac-10 fan" and a member of the Church, as well as an alum of both BYU and a Pac-10 school. BTW, I do agree with you on the refs...worst refs in the NCAA.

I'm afraid that the bigotry we are experiencing (from AZ fans last year, and now UW fans) is not going to be confined to one "conference" or group of people. It's widespread and it only seems to be getting worse (didn't prophecy tell us this would be the case?). Just wait 'till BYU plays a team from the SEC someday...I can only IMAGINE the message board garbage.

I find it interesting that Husky fans are so full of bravado given how bad their team was last year. They claim improvement, but offer no real substance to that claim - except to tout Locker. I watched Locker play a few times last year, and he can be a real game changer, but I also saw him get completely wrapped up and shut down (see game against my 'Devils last year, for example). We'll see, but I don't expect much out of UW this year and my guess is all this "talk" is just more evidence of a growing sense of frustration amongst their fan-base.

Generally, I'm not into predictions, but I think the only way UW stays in the game is if BYU let's them stay in the game with sloppy play and mistakes. Otherwise, I think BYU walks away with a nice "warm-up" win.

97Alum wrote:

Cougy_Monster wrote:

Why do we continue to schedule PAC-10 teams? Their refs cheat and their fans are bigots.

Let's branch out a bit and schedule some games in a real conference.

BTW, I do agree with you on the refs...worst refs in the NCAA.

I disagree...worst refs in sports. Period.

BYUtx wrote:

97Alum wrote:

Cougy_Monster wrote:

Why do we continue to schedule PAC-10 teams? Their refs cheat and their fans are bigots.

Let's branch out a bit and schedule some games in a real conference.

BTW, I do agree with you on the refs...worst refs in the NCAA.

I disagree...worst refs in sports. Period.

Ha! You might be right with that one! (Especially now that Donaghy is out of the NBA.)

97Alum wrote:

Cougy_Monster wrote:

Why do we continue to schedule PAC-10 teams? Their refs cheat and their fans are bigots.

Let's branch out a bit and schedule some games in a real conference.

Easy now, don't need to generalize the same way these people are on that Husky board. I'm a "pac-10 fan" and a member of the Church, as well as an alum of both BYU and a Pac-10 school. BTW, I do agree with you on the refs...worst refs in the NCAA.

I'm afraid that the bigotry we are experiencing (from AZ fans last year, and now UW fans) is not going to be confined to one "conference" or group of people. It's widespread and it only seems to be getting worse (didn't prophecy tell us this would be the case?). Just wait 'till BYU plays a team from the SEC someday...I can only IMAGINE the message board garbage.

I find it interesting that Husky fans are so full of bravado given how bad their team was last year. They claim improvement, but offer no real substance to that claim - except to tout Locker. I watched Locker play a few times last year, and he can be a real game changer, but I also saw him get completely wrapped up and shut down (see game against my 'Devils last year, for example). We'll see, but I don't expect much out of UW this year and my guess is all this "talk" is just more evidence of a growing sense of frustration amongst their fan-base.

Generally, I'm not into predictions, but I think the only way UW stays in the game is if BYU let's them stay in the game with sloppy play and mistakes. Otherwise, I think BYU walks away with a nice "warm-up" win.

You're right, there are lots of cool PAC-10 fans so I shouldn't generalize like that. I do think, however, that other conferences, even SEC, have less anti-mormon sentiment than the PAC-10.

Anyway, Washington sucks. That's really the bottom line. Maybe I'd be a loser too if I were a Washington fan.

BYUtx wrote:

97Alum wrote:

Cougy_Monster wrote:

Why do we continue to schedule PAC-10 teams? Their refs cheat and their fans are bigots.

Let's branch out a bit and schedule some games in a real conference.

BTW, I do agree with you on the refs...worst refs in the NCAA.

I disagree...worst refs in sports. Period.

I played a Game if Teacher B ball the Companionship game let me just say that the Ref was worse, I think he might be from Cal

but even our stake Presidents wife was like dang he is horrible

We lost in OT even tho I hit a 3 with 3 Second left so tied up the game but he called like 5 fouls on us in the 5 min OT and we lost by 10

Regarding the bashing that went on... meh, most of us have heard much worse, and put much more eloquently (and rationally).
I'm much less worried about people's opinions being influenced by those two or three idiots than, say, the idiot "Pastors for Huckabee" bloggers' twisted lies about the LDS Church, simply because people tend to accept such sources as "factual." (Humorous, when you think about it, because to be honest, I'd almost trust the opinions/"facts" of drunken sportsfans over politicians' stooges. At least you know sports fans actually believe what they're saying! )

Regarding the football, there was only one real mention (and by a Cougar fan), in the whole diatribe about the real storyline of the game. Everybody was talking about their infallible Jake Locker and our under-talented, under-athletic, under-experienced defense. In fact, NOT the storyline.
The storyline is what an ENTIRE RETURNING OFFENSIVE JUGGERNAUT will be able to do against a similarly question-marked defense. I have little doubt that in a home-opener, the Locker kid will be well motivated to play good ball, and it would be unrealistic to expect our defense to absolutely shut him down. He'll score points. But he's one guy, and I've not heard much about anything for him to pass to, or for him to get blocks from, or for him to hand the ball off to.

Bottom line: If the defenses are a push (as I feel they probably are), then I, for one, am going to take a top 15 offense who won 11 games last year, and have had an entire off-season to mature and develop, rather than one kid with little if anything around him, just because he can run fast.