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Re:Decent odds for winning the Washington & UCLA game 3 Weeks ago Karma: 5  
Opening at Oregon you can thank Director Douchehelmet for that (Turner). He thought opening at Oregon was worth a 2nd bye week.

Thank god we get Bye week at home, it would really suck to play them on the road!

 
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Re:Decent odds for winning the Washington & UCLA game 3 Weeks ago Karma: 22  
redneckjedi wrote:
The thing that scares me about UW is Locker's running ability. Anytime we play a team with a mobile quarterback, I have visions of Ratliff rushing for a bzillion yards against us in 2005. However, if his passing is still weak, we can probably game plan for that and make him beat us through the air. I'm not too worried about our ability to score on them - or anybody in the country, for that matter.


I think you nailed it. Jake Locker will be one of the mobilist QB's we'll see all year. I like his arm too. He is able to throw on the run under pressure, he's got skills and college time under his belt. I think looking past these guys would be a major mistake. Washington is no push over IMHO.

 
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Re:Decent odds for winning the Washington & UCLA game 3 Weeks ago Karma: 9  
I checked on my belief about Washington's offensive line and my initial impression that they lost a lot from their line is wrong. At this point, however, with the loss of their starting center, they are still a question mark.

Pre-spring they were considered the most experienced and solid group on the team. Last year they improved in run-blocking and sacks allowed over a horrible 2006 and nearly all their starters return this year, with one held out due to inijury during the Spring. That's their good news. The bad news is, their center was/is the leader of the unit and his backup is a sophomore.

They did block for a 1,000 yard rusher last year and their QB says that they were improved during the spring relative to last year, or is that because their defense is worse this spring? Also, did their sacks allowed stat go down because the o-line improved or because Locker scrambles and runs the ball more/better compared to their former QBs? Whatever the case may be, their line is big and possibly not horrible, but may be a little uncertain without their unit-leading center. I suspect that their offense will be somewhat improved.

Their defense however will still be their achilles heal. They seem to be banking on the idea that their defense will improve because they are replacing most of the starters from a bad defense last year with new inexperienced players. I don't think it works that way.

BYU has struggled in Seattle against solid defenses, usually while bringing in offensive teams that were still trying to establish their identity at the beginning of a season. That will not be the case this year. BYU knows who they are and what they need to do. The 2008 UW defense will not be the challenge that they were for much of the last decade. UW's offense may or may not make things interesting but this should be BYU's game to win.

 
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Re:Decent odds for winning the Washington & UCLA g 3 Weeks ago Karma: 5  
The offensive line is a strength, even with the loss of Garcia although that is a big loss. Before Garcias injury, the Oline lost only one starter from last year and returns 7/8 who had playing time last year. Sedillo is athletically capable but inexperienced. Don't forget, they didn't just block for a 1000 yard rusher (Rankin), they also blocked for a 900 yard rushing QB. The QB before Locker was Isaiah Stanbeck, also a running QB. Carl Bonnel did start the last 5 or 6 games of 2006 though. I suspect that is where a lot of the sacks came from as Stanbeck is a fast dude (now a WR on the Cowboys). Before Garcias injury, our oline was predicted to be either the best oline in the Pac-10 or at least in the top 3 this year.

The defense has to replace 3/4 dline, one safety and one corner. We are hoping it is addition by subtraction as the guys who left were not that good with the exception of Roy Lewis the corner. We are also praying that our new DC Ed Donatell will be able to instantly improve the defense just because nobody could possibly be as bad or worse than Kent Baer was.

We return all of our best linebackers. We lost Dan Howell the senior but towards the end of the year he was getting pushed out of the way by freshmen Mason Foster (an absolute stud frosh last year).


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I checked on my belief about Washington's offensive line and my initial impression that they lost a lot from their line is wrong. At this point, however, with the loss of their starting center, they are still a question mark.

Pre-spring they were considered the most experienced and solid group on the team. Last year they improved in run-blocking and sacks allowed over a horrible 2006 and nearly all their starters return this year, with one held out due to inijury during the Spring. That's their good news. The bad news is, their center was/is the leader of the unit and his backup is a sophomore.

They did block for a 1,000 yard rusher last year and their QB says that they were improved during the spring relative to last year, or is that because their defense is worse this spring? :unsure: Also, did their sacks allowed stat go down because the o-line improved or because Locker scrambles and runs the ball more/better compared to their former QBs? Whatever the case may be, their line is big and possibly not horrible, but may be a little uncertain without their unit-leading center. I suspect that their offense will be somewhat improved.

Their defense however will still be their achilles heal. They seem to be banking on the idea that their defense will improve because they are replacing most of the starters from a bad defense last year with new inexperienced players. I don't think it works that way. :P

BYU has struggled in Seattle against solid defenses, usually while bringing in offensive teams that were still trying to establish their identity at the beginning of a season. That will not be the case this year. BYU knows who they are and what they need to do. The 2008 UW defense will not be the challenge that they were for much of the last decade. UW's offense may or may not make things interesting but this should be BYU's game to win.

 
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Re:Decent odds for winning the Washington & UCLA game 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago Karma: 4  
Color me as one who has some concerns about both games. Don't get me wrong, I am sure BYU CAN win both games. I am not so sure that they WILL win both games. Here's why:

1. Historically, BYU has not done well on the road against BCS opponents (no matter how much of bottom-feeders they are). I know, the last few seasons don't mean anything for this season, but the past is usually a pretty good predictor of the future. So, we are going to have to have our A game for Washington.

2a. UCLA is going to come to BYU with something to prove after they lost on that blocked field goal. You know they have our game circled on the calendar. Furthermore, I am a little worried about Norm Chow's ability to game plan against us since he is an offensive mastermind.

b. I am also a little worried that UCLA faces Tennessee at home on a Monday, gets a bye for the next week, and then faces us the following week on a Saturday. That gives UCLA almost two weeks to prepare for us after having played Tennessee at home. If they win that game (which I will posit they have a good chance of doing since the PAC-10 and SEC do not travel well to eachother's conferences), they are going to come into BYU rested, with a lot of confidence, probably having worked out some of the kinks in their new offense. Even if they lose, I am a firm believer that facing tough competition makes a team better. We are going to have to be prepared for UCLA's A game (unless Tennessee physically beats the crap out of UCLA).

So, while I am confident BYU CAN win these two games, I will temper that confidence with a little concern. BYU will have to be prepared from the start of the season--unlike the last three years. These two games will allow us to see if BYU has finally taken the next step forward in its progress where we consistently beat BCS teams (and by consistently I mean almost every time we face them, not 50% of the time).

Go COUGARS!!!!!!!

 
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Re:Decent odds for winning the Washington & UCLA g 2 Weeks, 6 Days ago Karma: 9  
MLO, thanks for the info and perspective. Certainly optimism and enthusiasm are needed for a unit to be successful, and bringing in a former NFL defensive coordinator can do that. New/experienced players may outperform more experienced players who have lost hope.

I really do hope that the Huskies get themselves turned around this year. Partially, at least, because if BYU is successful as we hope this year, it'll be great not to have to shrug our shoulders when the inevitable question arises "but who did you play?".

BYU has its own experience with new coaches imprinting a changed attitude and effectiveness on the program. Under Coach Mendenhall and recently named DC Hill, the defense has transformed from a passive bend-and-stretch philosophy to an aggressive, disciplined unit that believes it will successfully hold down any team it plays against. Even though BYU lost experienced defensive leaders last year, former backups are stepping into their new roles and filling the leadership void.

BYU vs. UW should be a good game and I'm really looking forward to it.

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The offensive line is a strength, even with the loss of Garcia although that is a big loss. Before Garcias injury, the Oline lost only one starter from last year and returns 7/8 who had playing time last year. Sedillo is athletically capable but inexperienced. Don't forget, they didn't just block for a 1000 yard rusher (Rankin), they also blocked for a 900 yard rushing QB. The QB before Locker was Isaiah Stanbeck, also a running QB. Carl Bonnel did start the last 5 or 6 games of 2006 though. I suspect that is where a lot of the sacks came from as Stanbeck is a fast dude (now a WR on the Cowboys). Before Garcias injury, our oline was predicted to be either the best oline in the Pac-10 or at least in the top 3 this year.

The defense has to replace 3/4 dline, one safety and one corner. We are hoping it is addition by subtraction as the guys who left were not that good with the exception of Roy Lewis the corner. We are also praying that our new DC Ed Donatell will be able to instantly improve the defense just because nobody could possibly be as bad or worse than Kent Baer was.

We return all of our best linebackers. We lost Dan Howell the senior but towards the end of the year he was getting pushed out of the way by freshmen Mason Foster (an absolute stud frosh last year).


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I checked on my belief about Washington's offensive line and my initial impression that they lost a lot from their line is wrong. At this point, however, with the loss of their starting center, they are still a question mark.

Pre-spring they were considered the most experienced and solid group on the team. Last year they improved in run-blocking and sacks allowed over a horrible 2006 and nearly all their starters return this year, with one held out due to inijury during the Spring. That's their good news. The bad news is, their center was/is the leader of the unit and his backup is a sophomore.

They did block for a 1,000 yard rusher last year and their QB says that they were improved during the spring relative to last year, or is that because their defense is worse this spring? :unsure: Also, did their sacks allowed stat go down because the o-line improved or because Locker scrambles and runs the ball more/better compared to their former QBs? Whatever the case may be, their line is big and possibly not horrible, but may be a little uncertain without their unit-leading center. I suspect that their offense will be somewhat improved.

Their defense however will still be their achilles heal. They seem to be banking on the idea that their defense will improve because they are replacing most of the starters from a bad defense last year with new inexperienced players. I don't think it works that way. :P

BYU has struggled in Seattle against solid defenses, usually while bringing in offensive teams that were still trying to establish their identity at the beginning of a season. That will not be the case this year. BYU knows who they are and what they need to do. The 2008 UW defense will not be the challenge that they were for much of the last decade. UW's offense may or may not make things interesting but this should be BYU's game to win.

 
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