I agree mostly with Detmer.

PG- This position is now Jimmer's to lose. Jimmer will start pg this year at the start of the season. He plays pg in off season pick up games usually head to head with Lamont. Since Lamont struggled last year in the 2 exhibition games I would bet that, unless he plays really great early in the year, he will play back up pg. Rose now has confidence in Jimmer at point.

SG-I would expect that this starting job would belong to Lloyd. Mike is a good on the ball defender and has some good scoring ability. Jackson Emery might be able to beat mike out for the starting job. A lot will depend on how jackson comes back. I agree that Jimmer also will play some 2 guard when Lamont is in the game. Pinager Might play a few minutes here and there if we need a shooter.

SF- Lee will come out of games as little as possible next year. I think his
back up will be either Abuou or Emery. Maybe Archie Rose, if he can play better?

PF- JT will start again. Harstock will be the backup. Hopefully he has kept himself in decent shape, because we are very thin at the 4 spot this year.

C- Miles will start and be backed up by McGregor. Anderson will play very few minutes.

Redshirt- Harstock Emery and Abou are the three most likely candidates. I would think Emery or Abuou resdshirt.

I think the biggest looming question is where are we going to get bench points from? Harstock is the only one I can really see that has the reputation as a scorer, but he hasn't played ball for two years and he doesnt have any D-1 experience. That is a lot to ask from him.

By the way, I think Gunk has a good point about the pg position being a position designed to distribute and not score in the BYU offense. I think that has been true in the past, but I think Jimmer is a scorer and will score from whatever position. The last two games where he played primarily pg he averaged 13.5 ppg as the 3/4th scoring option. Coach rose put in that high screen and roll last year for Jimmer, and I think he will continue to add little things like that to allow the pg to have scoring oppertunities. Jimmer is also good at scoring in transition too so I dont see the pg position really holding his scoring back. Handling the ball so much will probably help it because he will go to the line a lot more where he usually averages around 90%.

Keep it up guys. I enjoy reading the variety of viewpoints about the players and positions for the upcoming season. As one that doesn't live near BYU, I appreciate the insight you are providing. Dang it, where's that "Karma for everyone" button when I need it?

Prof-Bball wrote:

I agree mostly with Detmer.

PG- This position is now Jimmer's to lose. Jimmer will start pg this year at the start of the season. He plays pg in off season pick up games usually head to head with Lamont. Since Lamont struggled last year in the 2 exhibition games I would bet that, unless he plays really great early in the year, he will play back up pg. Rose now has confidence in Jimmer at point.

SG-I would expect that this starting job would belong to Lloyd. Mike is a good on the ball defender and has some good scoring ability. Jackson Emery might be able to beat mike out for the starting job. A lot will depend on how jackson comes back. I agree that Jimmer also will play some 2 guard when Lamont is in the game. Pinager Might play a few minutes here and there if we need a shooter.

SF- Lee will come out of games as little as possible next year. I think his
back up will be either Abuou or Emery. Maybe Archie Rose, if he can play better?

PF- JT will start again. Harstock will be the backup. Hopefully he has kept himself in decent shape, because we are very thin at the 4 spot this year.

C- Miles will start and be backed up by McGregor. Anderson will play very few minutes.

Redshirt- Harstock Emery and Abou are the three most likely candidates. I would think Emery or Abuou resdshirt.

I think the biggest looming question is where are we going to get bench points from? Harstock is the only one I can really see that has the reputation as a scorer, but he hasn't played ball for two years and he doesnt have any D-1 experience. That is a lot to ask from him.

By the way, I think Gunk has a good point about the pg position being a position designed to distribute and not score in the BYU offense. I think that has been true in the past, but I think Jimmer is a scorer and will score from whatever position. The last two games where he played primarily pg he averaged 13.5 ppg as the 3/4th scoring option. Coach rose put in that high screen and roll last year for Jimmer, and I think he will continue to add little things like that to allow the pg to have scoring oppertunities. Jimmer is also good at scoring in transition too so I dont see the pg position really holding his scoring back. Handling the ball so much will probably help it because he will go to the line a lot more where he usually averages around 90%.

Nice insight. I agree that Emery might redshirt, especially if Abou is as good a defender as we've been told. Abou will have some fresher legs and Emery could benefit from a redshirt year. Rose also seems to have a habit of giving incoming freshman playing time.

I like the idea of Jimmer as PG, if given the liberty to score. Say that happens. I don't know then how I feel about Loyd as SG. Sounds like Morgan isn't much of a shooter. Loyd occasionally took shots, but didn't make many of them. Hopefully the off-season and some confidence will help that out. He always looked nervous out on the court and would hesitate anytime he took a shot.

For some reason I'm curious to see JT at the SG spot. I know as forward he creates a mismatch he can exploit, but teams often switched on defense so their SG was guarding JT, negating the mistmatch.

I just wonder how a team with Jimmer as PG, JT as SG, Cummard as SF, Harstock or MacGregor as PF, and Miles as C would perform. All would be scoring threats (can't leave a big man open down low). Last season teams could basically ditch Murdock and double team us without having to worry.

I agree: Pg=Jimmer Sg=JT Sf=Cummard Pf=Hartsock C=Miles
I think Hartsock will be a starter by January, and will surprise a lot of people with his talent.

superwise wrote:

I agree: Pg=Jimmer Sg=JT Sf=Cummard Pf=Hartsock C=Miles
I think Hartsock will be a starter by January, and will surprise a lot of people with his talent.

If Hartsock is able to start by January, that would be perfect. I then would not put JT as the starting 2 but put him as the 6th man scorer off the bench. I think that a scenario like that is perfect for JT and it also allows Rose to have more control over JT's shot selection. JT could sub in at the 2-4 spot just depending on the game situation and who was playing well or not. I dont know if many will agree with me but I like that situation the best. Then when Lee graduates JT can slide over to the 3 spot.

Prof-Bball wrote:

superwise wrote:

I agree: Pg=Jimmer Sg=JT Sf=Cummard Pf=Hartsock C=Miles
I think Hartsock will be a starter by January, and will surprise a lot of people with his talent.

....... I dont know if many will agree with me but I like that situation the best. Then when Lee graduates JT can slide over to the 3 spot.

I really doubt it will happen, but you may seem to forget that Lee is testing his talent on the NBA waters. His declaring for the draft may just be posturing, but I think he is talented enough for the NBA, just not yet skill wise. If the draft camps say he is good enough this year, he may leave and we are in more need than before.