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Re:Interesting Pac-10 expansion read 2 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 53  
Here is an example of the problem.

In 2003 the 66 BCS members split approximately $90 million in bowl revenue. That same year the 55 non-BCS members split about $6 million. Supposedly a non-BCS team could qualify for an "at-large" bid but not did. Even being undefeated was not good enough.

That was the reason for the Congressional investigation into possible anti-trust violations. As a result the BCS made the rules slightly more balanced but still has locked out the non-BCS schools from any chance to play for the NC since their control of the coaches poll effectively prevents it.

What happens if two non-BCS teams are ranked in the top 14? Sorry, only one gets to play in a BCS bowl. They don't allow more than a single (the get out of anti-trust jail free card) team non-BCS team to play in one of the BCS bowls in any given year. Of course, you are in the BCS you can even play for the NC despite having two losses.

 
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Re:Interesting Pac-10 expansion read 2 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 8  
Mormonrasta and BYUtx both make good points. I give the nod to Mormonrasta though... hahaha.

Seriously though, I really see no point in arguing further. Message board arguing is a lot like Bible bashing. We go into it with our own opinions and refuse to budge. We pick the weakest part of the opponent's argument and then try to focus on that. Emotions run high. Occasionally insults get tossed out. And in the end it was really just a waste of time because nobody changes their mind or tries to understand the other's point of view.

So I'm gonna move on with one parting shot... jump on the bandwagon now, friends. Yea verily, coacheshotseat has predicted WF to go 11-1 this season: Analysis.

 
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Re:Interesting Pac-10 expansion read 2 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: -1  
Conosticator wrote:
Here is an example of the problem.

In 2003 the 66 BCS members split approximately $90 million in bowl revenue. That same year the 55 non-BCS members split about $6 million. Supposedly a non-BCS team could qualify for an "at-large" bid but not did. Even being undefeated was not good enough.

That was the reason for the Congressional investigation into possible anti-trust violations. As a result the BCS made the rules slightly more balanced but still has locked out the non-BCS schools from any chance to play for the NC since their control of the coaches poll effectively prevents it.


$90 million sounds like alot until you divide that up among 66 teams. 1.36 million doesn't even buy 4 games of Nick Saban. The real money is made on regular season home games, boosters, and regular season TV deals. Ask Notre Dame to choose between their tv deal and the BCS and they say "see ya" to the BCS.

The revenue disparity only gets worse if there is a playoff. It would result in BCS conference teams playing alot more games thus earning more money while the subsequent reduction of the bowls would hurt nonBCS teams more than BCS teams.

What happens if two non-BCS teams are ranked in the top 14? Sorry, only one gets to play in a BCS bowl. They don't allow more than a single (the get out of anti-trust jail free card) team non-BCS team to play in one of the BCS bowls in any given year. Of course, you are in the BCS you can even play for the NC despite having two losses.


That is not true. Only 1 automatic bid from the other conferences, but they can have an at large bid. Straight from the BCS website:

No more than one such team from Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, and the Western Athletic Conference shall earn an automatic berth in any year. If two or more teams from those conferences satisfy the provisions for an automatic berth, then the team with the highest finish in the final BCS Standings will receive the automatic berth, and the remaining team or teams will be in the pool of teams eligible for selection by the bowls as at-large teams.

 
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Re:Interesting Pac-10 expansion read 2 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 28  
mormonrasta wrote:
That is not true. Only 1 automatic bid from the other conferences, but they can have an at large bid. Straight from the BCS website:

No more than one such team from Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, and the Western Athletic Conference shall earn an automatic berth in any year. If two or more teams from those conferences satisfy the provisions for an automatic berth, then the team with the highest finish in the final BCS Standings will receive the automatic berth, and the remaining team or teams will be in the pool of teams eligible for selection by the bowls as at-large teams.
Rasta, your point is very technically correct, but the implication of the aforequoted rule (which I believe Conosticator was channeling...) is that there's not much chance of an eligible non-BCS team to be chosen by a BCS Game without an auto bid.

Raise your hand if you think a BCS Bowl would pick a non-BCS school over the eligible BCS pool if they didn't have to...

Anyone???

Yeah, me neither.

 
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Re:Interesting Pac-10 expansion read 2 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 52  
imuakahuku wrote:


DIE THREAD DIE!!!!

WHY WON'T THIS THREAD DIE!!!!!!!!!

Because BYUtx and Rasta are stubborn.

 
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Re:Interesting Pac-10 expansion read 2 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 52  
Metal Bubba wrote:
Mormonrasta and BYUtx both make good points. I give the nod to Mormonrasta though... hahaha.

...says the fellow BCS fan.

 
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