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Question- wasn't it Wagner that was drafted by the CFL before his senior season?

Is that why he has not signed a free agent deal?


Yes, he was drafted by the Toronto Argonauts (#14 overall) before the 2006 season.

The signing bonus is from 5k-20k for a free agent contract.


Isn't that the same bonus for signing up to sell security systems/pest control/cutlery?

 
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John Beck QB Miami Dolphins

Curtis Brown RB Cleveland Browns
Dan Coats TE Cincinnati Bengals
Zac Collie WR Philadelphia Eagles
Jonny Harline TE Indianapolis Colts
Cameron Jensen LB Seattle Seahawks
Eddie Keele OL Oakland Raiders
Jake Kuresa OL New Orleans Saints
http://www.byucougars.com/Filing.jsp?ID=9262

Aaron Wagner LB CFL Toronto Argonauts

Zac Collie is the biggest surprise for me.

Each Free Agent makes about $5000-$10,000 signing bonus and league minimum (approx. $375,000/year??) if they make the team. [/color:9733814d2c]

 
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Just curious, if anyone with the time to research (I don't have it), could look at the current rosters of these organizations and approximate the likeliness that any of these guys have a chance to make the squad in respect to the current players at their position (how many TE's does Harline have to play better than to make it on the roster?, etc.)

As a Miami Dolphins fan (following the Beck pick with much glee ) I was surprised and happy when John Denny made the squad 2 years ago as a long snapper. He signed as a free agent and bumped the veteran snapper off of the roster during the pre-season.

Of the list of signees, what potential do they have to play special teams as well as their current position. It seems like the ability to make an impact on special teams is the easiest route for a non-drafted free agent to make the roster before the season starts.

 
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Just curious, if anyone with the time to research (I don't have it), could look at the current rosters of these organizations and approximate the likeliness that any of these guys have a chance to make the squad in respect to the current players at their position (how many TE's does Harline have to play better than to make it on the roster?, etc.)


Assuming that Harline had a choice in where to sign, I was actually a little surprised that he picked the Colts. The Colts have two solid tight ends in Dallas Clark and Ben Utecht. Clark is the quick, slot-TE/H-back (the position where Harline will fit in) while Utecht is the blocking TE. The good thing for Harline is that the Colts use both tight ends often, so I guess they could always use a few more on the roster.

On a related note, CFN has Harline as the #8 undrafted player:

http://cfn.scout.com/2/640132.html

8. Jonny Harline, TE BYU
A tight end in name only, he’s a pure receiver who cranked out two huge seasons in the Cougar offense. However, he can’t block worth a lick and has no speed whatsoever. He’s a good enough route runner to make it tough to cut him.

 
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The thing with Harline is he doesn't have great speed, doesn't block real well and isn't particularly strong. These are primary reasons why his draft stock stayed low. However, if you erase all of that and just look at his ability to make plays in a game, then he should have been a top-3 TE pick. And remember, against New Mexico he outran Quincy Black, a pretty good linebacker who was taken in the middle of the draft. I just hope he has the work ethic and his team has the awareness to give him a chance. He has great hands, is able to adjust to the ball and simply bullies smaller defenders. The guy simply makes plays. I don't know what his NFL career will turn out to be, but I hope he gets a chance. Heck, Doug Jolley had a great BYU career but wasn't really a freakish athlete...and he ended up starting in the Super Bowl his rookie year. It could happen.

I would be surprised if Keele and Kuresa don't make the cuts. I'm not as hopeful about Jensen and Collie. Brown lacks speed but has sticky hands and great versatility. He could be a situational guy in a west coast spread offense. I don't know the situation in Cincy to tell if Dan Coats will thrive there or not. He is a great blocker and has good hands as well. I would think somewhere along the line he will get a chance...hopefully.

Predicting NFL careers by college players is very difficult. Lesser-knowns in college sometimes find their niche in the NFL while big-time stars in college hit skid row and do nothing. Overall though I find it had to believe that on a conference champion team who demolished a PAC-10 opponent and placed a bevy of players on the all-conference team, that only one (Beck) would be drafted. Somehow, somewhere some of these guys will make their presence known.

 
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